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Interview of Wang Jindong, a participator of 1.23 self-burning incident in Tian'anmen Square

2008-03-07

"Before I left home, I came to the home of my mother-in-law and gave her 200 yuan. I usually gave her 200 yuan in the Spring Festival." Wang Jindong lowered his voice when talking about this, "I thought, I should not give her less at the last time."

"After that I came to my sister's home, where my mother lived. I talked with my mother there. Wang Juan did not get married at that time and her boyfriend was there. And my two sisters were there too. I kept my unhappiness under control by force and laughed to them. Then I got out of her home. And I shed tears after getting out and I felt sad very much. I was not like other Falun Gong practitioners who were able to pull off family affection when I was with my family members. Actually I loved my family members and my wife..." Wang Jindong choked with sobs when talking about this, and his eyes were full of tears.

"In fact I loved my family and my brothers and sisters very much in my heart, and they loved me too..." Wang Jindong choked with sobs and shed tears again.

"But I thought I must do it. I felt sad in my heart. Another reason was that I should complain for Falun Gong and protest to the government since I had been practicing Falun Gong!"

"It was actually what Li Hongzhi wished." Wang Jindong said, "Why? He talked about it in his lection in Changchun. It was in the page No. 58, he talked about it on the whole page. He actually wished to push practitioners out. He said you should come out now and pay your full attention to this. The meaning was that you should move, you should move when the situation was about to change. It meant that he was angry and he wanted to push his followers out."

"In my heart, I wanted to fight for Falun Gong since it was banned as a cult. I should protest, and I should protest in the highest form. I must do this. I think all people will die sooner or later. And another reason is that I think the Master will not leave me alone if I was dead." Wang Jindong said.

"Actually it is after I have been transformed, I have recovered my consciousness after I`ve been transformed. In fact, my transformation is not a result of education or persuasion by others." Wang Jindong said, "The government did persuade me in all efforts, but it didn't work." " I understand what they`ve told me. I am more than 50 years old. I have driven my car to a lot of places and I know everything. I understand what you tell me and I know it is for my goodness. But I don't pay attention to it. Why? It's because we share different values."

"Therefore, the case of Fu Yibin made me startled. Why, the reason was that he was an obvious Falun Gong practitioner from the materials, photos and videos in the report."

"He speaks incoherently. And Falun Gong practitioners are crazy. Yes, I know it." Wang Jindong said affirmatively, "they are just going astray. They seem to be demoniac. Actually they`ve lost their consciousness and have a rat in a garret."

"According to the introduction of his neighbors and media, Fu Yibin was a man loving his wife, son and his parents. Why he went to such an extreme? The reason was that he practiced Falun Gong." Wang Jindong said excitedly, "He had done such kind of things, and Li Hongzhi once said that you could not go to your heaven with nothing. The mosquitoes, flies, rats or other animals you used to kill unconsciously could not be called killing lives. You killed them unconsciously and you should not pay for them. However, if you practiced Falun Gong, those you killed would not die in vain. They would enrich your world in the heaven. They would be what in your heaven and they would be happy about their deaths. If they knew you had practiced Falun Gong well, they would be happy to be killed by you! These were the original words of Li Hongzhi."

"The result was that, someone would think he should kill his parents if he loved them. They would go to his heaven and enjoy their lives. It would be the way of his love. So he would not be sad about that. He thought he did it well. The reason was that the lections of Li Hongzhi were bewitching them. At that time I did not lose my consciousness. I would not kill people at least. So I thought Fu Yibin was a Falun Gong practitioner. The reason of his behavior was that the lections of Li Hongzhi were bewitching him." Wang Jindong said.

"After that I thought about what Li Hongzhi told us. Li Hongzhi said that Falun Gong practitioners would not go astray. I gave them Falun( the wheel of law) and there was a Falun in the place under his belly. This Falun was intelligential. Whenever you went astray or did something wrong, it would protect you. So you would not go astray at all. Practicing Falun Gong was the safest way. These were what he said. I though these were running in the opposite direction. Was it safe? Why Fu Yibin would take such a step? He was a Falun Gong practitioner, was it safe?" Wang Jindong assailed, "and there were more than 1500 or 1600 such kind of cases, and there were reports in media. Why I didn't believe? I didn't believe at that time since I thought they were what the media made up in order to repress Falun Gong, I didn't believe them at all. But why I believed them later? Because I saw them through the camera and I witnessed what Fu Yibin said and what he looked like. I concluded that he was a Falun Gong practitioner! Why Li Hongzhi said it was safe to practice Falun Gong, why it went wrong? And he killed so many people, who were his family members. I thought there was something wrong with it!"

"From then on, I began to think about these questions with cool mind. The case of Fu Yibin startled me. I was totally startled! I began to deny it, to think about what he (Li Hongzhi) said reasonably and try to compare them with the facts. I was not sure whether you had seen the small board I made." Wang Jindong said, "A Falun Gong practitioner walked on the street and there was a scaffold beside the street. At that time a pipe dropped and hit his head. When he looked up, there was a big Falun protecting him, he was not hurted at all. And there was another old woman, her head bumped a car and left a hole on the car and she was safe because there was a Fa body protecting her. I thought why Li Hongzhi did not help him (Fu Yibin) regain consciousness?"

"I was considering one thousand and several hundred cases reported by the government. I began to think about them seriously, I thought they are true." Wang Jindong said, "Reporters had interviewed me a lot of times. All of them told me to tell the truth. No one, no government or policeman forced me to say something. So I believed what the government and media reported are true. But we didn't believe those cases with names, addresses, working places and neighbors. However, in the two most outstanding cases--the old woman and that man--he (Li Hongzhi) talked in every lection, what are their names? Where do they live? Which city? What are their working places? We knew nothing! But we believed it. Were we naive and ridiculous? So I began to know I was cheated. I felt suffering very much! After my transformation I began to analyze him (Li Hongzhi) through every case, and I wanted to write my analysis down for more Falun Gong practitioners in order to call on them to transform in a hurry. I felt I was very pitiful, and Falun Gong practitioners were also pitiful. I felt sympathetic towards them because most of them were good guys." Wang Jindong said in a sorrow.

"According to my analysis, Li Hongzhi used to be a clever man. When he found others who practiced Qi Gong got rich and fame. He was anxious. He was so anxious that he developed a set of Gong. And I thought he wanted to earn money and be famous. But gradually, it went to extreme and he was not able to cool it down." Wang Jindong said, "Then he just let it be when he cannot cool it down and the followers are just docile fools. At the end he can't control it himself."

After the interview Wang Jindong showed the reporter their dormitory and library.

    
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